1) 9 3/8" OAL, 4 5/8" drop point blade with Loveless mark on the left, scroll engraved brass guard, maroon micarta grip, leather sheath. Excellent. 2) 8 3/8" OAL, 3 7/8" drop point blade with Loveless mark and "217-5" on the left, serrated thumb grip area on the spine, German silver guard, hardwood grip, leather sheath. Very fine.